Flewen's Hilarious Misconceptions on Bankruptcy

INC Chapel buried in lahar.

This picture above was posted by our dear Flewen to denote that the INC like them suffers in bankruptcy. This was our dear Flewen's silly misconceptions:

it is not just the Catholic Church suffers bankruptcy, i guess, your church do also suffer it too, though not in particular about sex maniac ministers, but all about the in-activeness of the people to contribute in your abuluyan.

Please forgive me if we find this  hilariously silly dear. As you can see the pic you provided does not in anyway show that the INC has gone thru what your Church had PUBLICLY DECLARED BANKRUPTCY my dear. As you can see the walls of the chapel is BURIED in lahar if I am not mistaken.

Flewens' Concern in Expelling

I mentioned to Flewen "The INC follows the teaching of the apostle to EXPEL THE EVIL BRETHREN."

I cannot tell that because the father of Charice remained to be a member of INC even if how many times he did so many bad things to his family.

Of course not dear. How can you? your not an INC. It is only in the local congregation where that person is currently under will the announcement be done once expelled.

For your information we don't brag about such an event. We are more saddened if a brethren is being expelled. But it has to be done. Especially for those who refuses to attend worship services anymore. Unlike yours, you don't really give that much importance if your brethren is attending or not.

Answering Flewen on Unfairness & Illogical

Flewens states :

There were also abuses inside the INC, the only reason why the abuses of some priests became viral in the media world was because of Secularism. We all know that the Catholic Church is the most well-known Church as to compare from other Christian denominations in the world today. Even your church is nothing as to compare the splendor that the church have for so long. It was not also who claimed that she sees brighter life but it was her who said that she’s happy that she is one in faith now with her mother. So it is not my problem anymore sir.

so, it would be illogical to use the abuses of some priests just in order to justify your accusation against the Catholic Church. It would be unfair for us that Catholics will shut down exposing the abuses of your brethren while in your side, you are happy attacking the Catholic faith.Think about it.

 Come again dear "There were also abuses inside the INC". Well, thats why I said before that we are not perfect. And such abuses do not go without consequence. Thats why like I said we EXPEL the evil brethren who refuses to repent and follow the teachings of Christ.

Missing Vicarius Filii Dei Tiara, the Butler did it.

Lets continue Flewen states  “many Catholic bloggers also posted the pictures of the Tiara but until now, your cohorts were not able to provide proofs in your claim about the 666 dilemma. I am not going to blame you in person, but I can blame this to your leader. please provide that this kind of inscription can be found in the tiara: because this is the actual Tiara that the pope used:

Cohorts? don't be silly dearest. For your information they are actually your cohorts. The Seventh Day Adventist for your information dearest has your BELIEFs:

 However, the Adventist Church adopted the Trinity early in the 20th century and began to dialogue with other Protestant groups toward the middle of the century, eventually gaining wide recognition as a Protestant church. Wikipedia

So don't pass of your cohorts to us dearest. Just because they had found basis of your POPEs title to be a beastly mark, your so quick in accusing us with your silly understanding. Be rational dearest KNOW your fellow TRINITARIANs.

Vicarius Filii Dei is an accepted title for the Pope

A shot for peace

Flewen states with regards to the Donation of Constantine  “VFD (Vicarius Filii Dei) is a clear lie.”

1.       VFD a clear lie??? You are clearly being misled by your MISGUIDED UNDERSTANDING.  You simply do not understand what your mentors attest.

2.       When they found that document of the donation was a forgery. You should understand that their basis in finding that the document to be a forgery WAS NOT  with regards to the  VFD TITLE BESTOWED to your POPE dearest.  Don’t be silly. It was the type of LANGUAGE used which COULD NOT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN in the FOURTH CENTURY. 

Flewens Adventist Issue

Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil
Thats why most catholics are CLUELESS on the ATROCITIES
of the Catholic Church Inquisition, Kidnapping of innocents, torture,
mass killings, Never spoke out on Hitlers MASSACREs, using FORGERIEs for centuries,
protecting PEDOPHILE priests, using CHURCH money  to PAY OFF victims,
transferring PEDOPHILEs to another congregation where the sexual predators
CONTINUE in their PERVERSIONs. 

Flewens Thinking on Conversion and prevention

With regards to the point of CONVERSION I said “[As you can see the decision to convert was not borne out of FAITH but out of a VERY BAD EXPERIENCE. Not out of BELIEF but of VIOLENCE that has haunted them.]”

Flewens response: 

actually, when I watched one of the episodes of SAKSI [when it was still in the early Primetime slot] regarding her conversion, she was actually excited and dreamed of to convert to the Catholic Faith after her mothers reversion. So when Charice with her brother were asked if they’re willing to convert, they answered affirmatively and with sincerity.  

Flewen's reason of Charice issue

Flewens reaction regarding what I stated "Yes, we do clean our own dearest. But for some they took refuge in other faiths instead of trusting their leaders to help or guide them. Thats their decision. Its not that surprising. The INC leadership can only extend their hand but they cannot force a brethren to take it if they won’t. Charice and her Mother probably found comfort from famous personalities of your faith.]"

Flewen's response:

"because they know the truthfulness if you are in the Catholic Fold. The INC members who were boasting in the online world about their church were silence about Ms. Charice’s situation. Remember how her mother became a battered wife which is very saddenning and hilarious. This situation only shows that not all the time, that when a former non-INC becomes part of your fold, imperfections always exist in your church." 

Come again dear "because they know the truthfulness if you are in the Catholic Fold." don't be silly dear. What truthfulness are your implying? You cannot even find the term TRINITY in your BIBLE nor can you even find the very statement that you've so easily believe like "THREE PERSONS IN ONE GOD". Where can you FIND THAT in your BIBLE?

Flewen Got it but Whose the LIAR?

Let us quote our dearest post in his reply to my post when I said "

In answer to what I said "Excuse me dear the INC are not fanatics." Flewen made this remark below

source: 

"I did not say that INCs are fanatics." - Flewen

Its quite clear what Flewen said he did not say that INCs are fanatics. My statement was based on what you said dear Flewen heres a copy of your post:

Really my dearest Flewen either your forgetful or just plain old silly LIAR.

Take note of what your post dearest said:

"I only showed up to you INC FANATICS that INC members are not perfect" - Flewen

See dearest it is not us whose  HYPOCRITE but you. On one end our dear Flewen says this and later DENIEs having said it.

Purgatory Is another Catholic Doctrine taken from Pagans

Have you really asked yourselves where
PURGATORY is being taught in the bible?
Or has Christ or the Apostles
ever taught this?

Catholics would normally take this post as an attack on their faith. But kindly consider the points being presented before you go in to that conclusion.  I was catholic before and its but natural for people to ask this without being accused of maligning the catholic faith.

So if ever you find things to be incorrect do share your points for us to consider so we can all benefit from this discussion.

Its a Cardinal Sin Who Accepts Money from SATAN

“If SATAN appears to ME and GIVES ME MONEY, I will ACCEPT the MONEY 
and spend it all on the poor. It is not the practice of the Church to ask
donors where the donations come from. Our duty is to make sure all
donations go to the poor,” said by Cardinal Sin got this here.

If thats really how Cardinal Sin felt. Then why didn’t he use the MONEY of the CHURCH which they OBVIOUSLY HAVE to spend on the poor?

21 Points to Settle Ryan's "Church Apostasy" or is it just APOSTASY

WHEN will this SAVAGE WOLVEs come? AFTER
THE APOSTLES had LEFT.

O ito dearest Ryan. Wag ka ng magpaikot ikot sa mga tanong mo. Lets finalize this dear:

1. Ryan dearest asked “Pleas clarify what you mean by "Church Apostasy".” Read my post dear there is no term as ARRANGED by your PREFERENCE in the BIBLE. Take note thats your PREFERRED ARRANGEMENT not ours.

2. What I am discussing is ECHOED simply in what is WRITTEN. An APOSTASY that will happen to the CHURCH as RELAYED by the APOSTLEs when they LEAVE. 

3. What will AFFECT the CHURCH when the apostle leave? the APOSTASY that simple.

The Catholic Church in the beginning is the Church of Christ

Mahina ba ang GANID NA LOBO?

Ryans misguided thinking "Ayusin muna ninyo itong hindi ninyo pagkakaintendihan so we can get back to your business, Jo King."

Matagal lang pong ayus dearrest. Ang ayusin mo dearest ay yun UNAWA ninyo. Mantakin mo naman dear ang LAYO ng UNAWA MO dun sa SINABI ni Cath.

And I though you harbor good reasoning but its faltering to the HILARIOUS side of being SILLY. No dear, I am not talking about CHILI. 

Answering Ryan - SUCCESSORs of the Apostles

Beware of Wolves in Sheep's Clothing. Men who
DISTORTs the TRUTH. Notice how they act when
it comes to the TRUTH written in the scriptrues.
They question theTRUTH written in the bible
and INJECT their own INTERPRETATIONS

Hi again dearest Ryan, seems your still avoiding answering the simple question dearest. 


This discussion seems to be one sided. Ok dearest I'll answer some of your questions again. You asked "So, you are saying that when we read the word "apostasy" in the Bible, it means Apostasy OF the Church or the Apostasy OF the ENTIRE Church. Do you confirm this?"

Don't dwell to much on what I say dearest. But on what the bible or your bible attest. Let me state again on "Apostasy OF the Church"...

Answering Ryan on Apostasy II

The APOSTATE Church is the church that abandoned the name of CHRIST.

On what you said dear Ryan "Therefore, let me reiterate for sake of clarity that there was indeed a prophesy for apostasy "in" the Church (NOT "of" the Church) and we have seen it happened. Clear?"

Well, thank you for pointing your position on the matter. But again that is not what the other catholics position stands on. I am basing this on the catholics I have discussed this with.

So on what you said "Contrary to your claim about my position or the Catholic position on this matter, we "accept the truth regarding the Apostasy." And, we, the true owner of the Bible "VALUE the TRUTH that is being RELAYED by the bible" and it is not "hard for you[us] to understand." "

Answering Ryan on the APOSTASY & Ownership of the Bible

Does the Catholic church OWN the WORDs in the BIBLE?

Hi dear Ryan, you said " It is clear that the Catholic Church, the owner of the Bible, recognizes the prophesy of apostasy in the Church in the Scriptures. This is very clear and obvious."

Owner of the bible? ok dearest if you insist then kindly SHOW us the document to SUBSTANTIATE your CLAIM.

Answering Ryan on Apostasy

By abandoning the name of Christ and replaced it with
the Catholic name which is just an INVENTED name, we
are quite certain that the APOSTASY is working
to this very day.

Dearest Ryan I am Jo King.  I do hope you remember that.  Its that simple. Its like those cheesecakes you just can't help but be drawn to it.  Like bees to flowers. Or if you prefer in your case like flies to garbage. That kinda thing. Am I Jo King? of course I am.

You said "With your long response, you failed to answer the question or substantiate your interpretation of your so called Apostasy Doctrine "in" the bible. "

Oh but I did dearest. Its not my fault if you can't accept the truth regarding the Apostasy. If you VALUE the TRUTH that is being RELAYED by the bible then it won't be that hard for you to understand. That the APOSTASY was indeed FORTOLD by the APOSTLEs.

Saan nagmula ang Catholic Church?

NagMULA ba ang CATHOLIC CHURCH sa JERUSALEM?

Ukol sa tanong ni Aerial at sagot ni Flewen:

Aerial: ANG IGLESIA KATOLIKA BA AY NANINIWALA NA GALING ITO SA JERUSALEM?

sagot ni Flewen: OO, lahat ng mga Catholic resources ay nagsasabing ang Iglesiya katolika ay naitatag ito sa Jerusalem, ang Iglesiyang gawa ba ni manalo, galing ba sa jerusalem? obvious.

Opo, ang Iglesia Ni Cristo na tinuro ni Ka Felix ay nagmula po sa Jerusalem. Ito ang kawan na pinagpa-una ni Jesus nun pa man dearest. Di po obvious ito sa mga nagABANDONA sa pangalan ni Cristo at pinalitan ng Katoliko.

On Splendor: Cowards are like that also

How can Apostle Peter be a Pope when it was Apostles James who had the
FINAL DECISION in matters of the church?

The splendor blog has a lot of teachings that can fool an unwary catholic. And the owner obviously filters comments especially if the question of their faith is proven to be wrong.

Now I get it, this is how they defend. The blog is just for people like you dear. So they can continue to fool a lot of catholics.

re: http://apocalypsisjesuchristi.wordpress.com/2011/08/30/i-get-it/#comment-189

Ukol sa Juan 17:1-5

Si Jesus mismo nagsasabi na IISA lang po ang TUNAY NA DIOS
at yun ang kanyang AMA. May TINURO ba si Jesus na 3 persons in one god?
WALA po

Wala nga pong sinasabi talaga na hindi dios si cristo sa sitas dearest. Dahil sabi nga po sa Juan IISA ANG DIOS NA TUNAY at yun nga raw ang AMA ni Jesus.

Ang Hebrew 1:8 nilikot lang ang salin nito mga dearest kaya nga meron nilabas din ang mga Katoliko na version na hindi tinatawag si Cristo na dios ng tunay na Dios.

Ukol sa ilusyon ng isang pari:  The Splendor of the Church: DIOS BA O HINDI SI CRISTO AYON SA AMA? Part 3